Video Free Science Journal Articles on Neanderthal genome!
With the sequencing of the Neanderthal genome has come evidence that Neanderthals and the ancestors of modern humans did indeed interbreed after the ‘final’ migration out of Africa. This is amazing, and confirms many of the the ideas of researchers like Milfred Wolpoff and his students. Two of the articles are free access: sciencemag.org
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25 responses to Video Free Science Journal Articles on Neanderthal genome!
@LithodidMan
“huge amount of evidence that supports interbreeding”
Like what? It can be explained by many different mechanisms.
“by what measure these are guesses”
That’s what a hypoothesis is, a yet unsubstantiated educated guess.
Personally I believe yes there was interbreeding and it lead to this, but it is still important to differentiate opinion from what has been proven.
@karlkarlkarl1234 There is a huge amount of evidence that supports interbreeding and cannot be explained by any other known mechanisms. I am not sure by what measure these are guesses without evidence. The papers I cite and link in the description are not “the media” but peer-reviewed journal article with hard data.
It is only a *hypothesis* that this shared DNA came from interbreeding with Neanderthals and is contrary to many other sound theories such as the Out-of-Africa model. The reality is that no-one knows, this is merely a scientific guess with no evidence, but that doesn’t stop the media from inflating and selling it to the viewers as fact :]
@LithodidMan
who in Africa has the genes Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt, morocco (north Africans) ?
he means he when beyond college algebra LOL
Nice punchline, btw. I always thought people from Papua New Guinea left Africa much later, less than 40 thousand yrs ago… about 20 thousand years AFTER neanderthals had died out.
@StevoDog21 1) In all of the Green et al. analysis Sub-Saharan African population did not carry the Neanderthal genes. 2) While it varies, the general ‘rule of thumb’ in population genetics is that gene flow between populations is maintained if at least one interbreeding event occurs every 50 generations 3) For decades Wolpoff has claimed that early modern humans interbred with Neanderthals, the Green et al. paper absolutely confirms this.
Video Free Science Journal Articles on Neanderthal genome!
How is it explained that African populations also had these genes? And how can all populations be considered a single breeding pool, with the distances involved? It seems like a little of a stretch to say the ideas of Wolpoff are confirmed.
Actually, it’s probably only about 20 million to 1 chance that one of them has watched the video. Probably even better odds than that when you start factoring likely demographics of internet users and people from the scientific community.
All that out of the way – fascinating stuff. I don’t see how people can’t find human evolution and the latest scientific findings to be totally engrossing. And I can say that without having any science background.
Video Free Science Journal Articles on Neanderthal genome!
I just noticed Svante Paabo’s name on the paper. I just read about he and his students helped to sequence the Neanderthal genome in James Watson’s book, “DNA- The Secret of Life.”
Wow. That’s actually pretty interesting. And I had to admit, I got a chuckle out of the end. I needed the smile.
Killer video, in any case. I’d actually formed my opinion based on what I knew of out-group morality, so my opinion at the time was that they couldn’t have. Someone else, however, actually brought up the valid point of the rape-evolution thing, and this really makes me think, especially in regards to the FOXP2 gene. Perhaps you’d like to discuss it some time this weekend?
Video Free Science Journal Articles on Neanderthal genome!
I think I can hear it, San people saying; You bastard!
Anthropology a real science? What next, grave digging is a true science? I understand how ideas have to be debated, but that’s not debate. That’s derision.
why would this be “racist”? I’ve actually heard of this before… was one of many ideas trying to explain what happened to Neanderthal. We should keep an open mind with these things.
At some point I would like to do a vid on Wolpoff’s more controversial thoughts on the ‘biased’ taxonomy of homins. Basically that some of the differences between even very different groups of hominins would be ridiculed if they were species of bird or rodents or invertebrates.
@Terrencje @Terrencje Yes, the Weaver paper was very interesting, although I do remain skeptical of their Neanderthal reconstruction with a sample size of one (they are very likely correct if the comparisons they did with some of the other Homo and Aust. material was valid).
@LithodidMan
Nice.
@taliesinknol the old joke.
It is funny how people who do not believe in evolution seam’s to be the least evolved.
@MouseHusic Yes, I have a labret.
Just curious… is your lip pierced?
(cont’d) A comparison would be to say that if you support the out of Africa hypothesis then you believe that none of the waves of out-migration prior to Mt-Eve contributed anything at all to the modern human genome, which I doubt many (if any) people would claim. Okay, maybe those douchebags by the water cooler 8 years ago would think that….
@TipoftheSlung As Wolpoff explained it, there is not a real conflict between the out of Africa view and the multiregional view except by some who would create an either outdated or strawman view of the other. His complaint was some of the OoA people making the claim that if you were a multiregionalist then you believed that all of the major races evolved from a different homind in different speciation events, something nobody believes (at least not for about the last century). (cont’d)
Video Free Science Journal Articles on Neanderthal genome!
The ultimate irony: Primitive human DNA living on in the form of creationists…
nice ending
Facinating, i have just recently watched a series called “the incredible human journey” (available from user MrUnscientific) which hung its hat on the out of africa peg. I am going to have to look into this whole thing a little further.
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